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These guys have it right. Avoidae doesn’t need to be any higher than 102.4%. Yes, they bumped it up to +4 bosses, but you don’t want to see it drop and be struggling to get it bk up when you hit WotLK bosses. Again, anything higher is a waste of pts. If youan swap avoidae pts around, I believe that order of importae is blk rating (to blk those blows, kking off our HS and Blessing of Sant), Parry (hey, threat is threat even if it’s white damage and the extra hits add up on your Hands) then dodge (best not to get hit if youan’t do the other 2). OMGEverythingIsTaken wrote:to make sure im understanding Theophastusorrtly, after 102.4% avoidae, im better off dropping blk rating and stking dodgedefenseparry rating, and if iant get the sso shield the badge shield would be a good upgrade? This isorrt. If youan drop blk for dodge or parry and keep 102.4%, you’re taking less damage (dodge takes predee over blk, so if you’re at, say, 103.4%, you have 1% blk that’s not doing a thing for you). OMGEverythingIsTaken wrote:I believe that order of importae is blk rating (to blk those blows, kking off our HS and Blessing of Sant), Parry (hey, threat is threat even if it’s white damage and the extra hits add up on your Hands) then dodge (best not to get hit if youan’t do the other 2). The amount of extra threat we get from parry is absolutely minimal, but it takes about 25% more parry rating for 1% parry than dodge rating (for 1% dodge). Blking only mitigates about 500-1k (obviously depending on your blk value) of a hit vs. potentially 5-10k avoided by a dodge. Better than nuffin, but not nearly as good for damage redtion. I gear for defense (to 490540) > blk (to 102.4%) > dodge > defense (still get some avoidae after 490540) > parry > blk.

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As others have said,rushing Blows are now only from bosses that are +4 levels (KaraT raid bosses are only +3 levels) so 102.4 is no longer a “mag number”. 490 Defense to preventrits is still a mag number for the few days that you will still be 70. This wow.allakhazamomdbitem?witem=34675;soue=live is stillonsidered to be one of the best Paladin Tanking shields (until you get a better one from raids or WOTLK anyway) so if you have (oran get) the SSO rep for it, get it. If you have badges to spend, upgrading your gear isn’t going to hurt at all, it just isn’t going to last forever (maybe level 75-78 at most), but at this point, you might as well spend your badges on something. I would rommend the 60-badge ring from the SSO badge vendor (the smith on IoQD or the SSO badge vendor in Shat next to the portal to QD). Rings are tougher toome by, and the 60-badge ring is better than the violet-eye exalted ring from repeatedly doing Kara, and is also better than the tanking rings that drop in Kara. With yoururrent stats, youould easily run 3-6 heros per night with a dent group (assuming you have the time) and upgrade whatever you want to before the expansion just for fun. It won’t last you forever, but it WILL make the first 5-7 levels of WOTLK even easier. Primal Nether and Nether Vortex and Badge Gems are getting dumped on the market likerazy while people blow their badges now, so you might as well just get some better equment to make levelling even easier. I plan on loading up on whatever badge gear that I am missing over the next week just bause I am having fun mauling heros now.

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for me Mobs: lay stoneskin or windwall depeding on ranged or melee LB L (it gives me mor edmge atm and has 1.5 sast) Frost LB earthshk = DEAD Melee players (Warriors, Pallys, Rogues, Melee huntards e.) earthbind : run bk, then turn LB LBL frost LB LBL = DEAD aster or ranged players (Mages, other ele or resto shammys) in magesase *wait for them toast sheep earthsk LB LBL flame shk LB LB L = DEAD Petlasses (um… duh?) for this i know that even though i am aaster iant win a ranged battle so i take it uplose rogue style and drops totems and shk spells with melees +40 spelldmg +81 healing and any other +dmg ehants there are i’d guess. Also, pvp sets arent good for raiding simply bause they are designed to doompletely different things and pvp lks a lot of endurae (mana wise) I’d guess you’re off best if you gather the D3 set for shamans, or if you’re resto tohk the top somewhere on this page with a huge list of gear.

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Seease, Eater of Souls wrote:i’m doing flame weapon. at first windfury, but flame definately seems better. Now almost all my gear has spell damage. my lbrits are ne. have to wah it, pull aggro. questing in 3 man group tonight. I hit it too early, and I’ll pull aggro from the warrior in a heartbeat. I did pull aggro a bit, not too worried about it on normal mobs. I was mh moreareful on elites. I’m tually pulling less aggro sie I lay my totems first. As enhae I’d rush right up and hit stormstrike before the warrior had mh aggro LOL. Then lay totems while meleeing. Now I try to lay something benfial for he warrior, mana for me and the priest, maybe a searing if more than one mob. But sometimes they just go down too quk to bother with totems. I’m really starting to love elemental. I thought it sked at first this thread isoming in helpful for when my shaman hits 61 and will resp to elemental (31021 planned) I would love to sp elemental earlier, but bause leveling fast to get to 70 (and bome a healbot) is somewhat of a priority ihose enhaement for now. and at 41, that served me good being able to either tank, dps or heal in SM. (ok, i’m in a lot of blues and have a healerset with a ne amount of blue gear too =P) And although running up to mobs and smashing fe is ne, i’m looking forward to spcing ele a lot bauseasting from range is just more my thing. And bause i already have a lvl 70 and a lot of lvl 70 friends, getting goodaster gear wont be hard >:Di’m happy with what I did now. enhae to 61. and 31021 build. I’m just annhilating the bog lords in zangarmarsh. some mobs are easier than others ofourse. lb, lb,lb, earth shk, if I get 2 lbrits he’s dead. Even 1rit will only take aouple swings with my me to kill. Finally working out now that I have so mh spell damage. I’d like to get myrithae up higher. not sure how to do that. Int raisesrit right? like agility with regular gear? Problem is I’ve beenoentrating on spell damage not int. I do have some gear that raisiesrithae. Hopefully I’ll get more in the future.

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tzsjynx wrote:For PVE you’re taunt works perftly for this AEombo style, as you taunt all monstersurrently agroing a player (so if she pulls whole AE group youan just pull them all bk) Everything you said is great, but, bause I don’t want any mioeptions, pally taunt only affts 3 mobs. The only way to pull a whole group bk is if they are melee by using BoP.Wow I got a 59 pseudo-twink pally and didn’t know that… Thats news to me, thanks =)And a way to instantly summon bk minions lost to running out of range, like the Hunteran. Being a Demo Lk is a lot of fun, espially in battlegrounds, but I burn through shards like a trigger happy Mage onrk burns through mana. And losing your minion bause it runs out of range just plain sks. I’ve had my pet feared (even with 240 shadow resistae it gets feared every single time) out of range so many times. That’s another six sonds to summon it bk, plus a shard. Not to mention Rogues with theirheat Death talent. It basally allows them toheat death every minute, by reding the damage of an attk that would otherwise have killed them by 100% and lowering all damage taken for 3 sonds afterwards by 90%. So that Shadowburn that should’ve done 1200 damage instead did 0 and the following damage only does 10% of its supposed average. Usually the bastards live long enough to hit Gouge or pop a health pot, meaning my Shadowburn Soul Shard return debuff goes out the window along with the shard I blew. I use that trinket you get from ST, park the VW someple and run off, insta shard.

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Nightslayerquez wrote: Well hool hasalmed down alot (senior year high hool). And my gf and i are returning to WoW. She wants to try a warlk, so i was wondering from a warlks point of veiw, what is your favoritemost useful duolass? I’ve tried a lot ofombinations – I’m a warlk, my wife is an altahol. I think that the bestombos I’ve found are ‘lkdruid and ‘lkshaman. Both are healingutilitylasses andan support a warlk without overwhelming. lk [any sp] + rogue. underestimate it and you die while seeing just one ZieLk wrote:lk [any sp] + rogue. underestimate it and you die while seeing just one The problem with ‘lk + rogue is my wife’somplaint that I don’t let her rogue alts use stealth. Stealth really slows things up a lot. She also doesn’t get to prte her pkpketing. About the only thing that a rogue brings to the table is DPS with thehae of taking damage unless the warlk’s petan grab the aggro. And if the warlk’s pet is grabbing aggro, then the rogue isn’t putting out enough DPS. If I want a partner withC, I’ll take a mage any time over a rogue. Sap needs the rogue to stealth up to the mob, and that takes too mh time. Sorry, but rogue isn’t my personal favorite for duoing.Take a Pally. Rolling Ret for earlier levels will keep agro on you via damage, and with your ability to heal and the Lk’s fear ability you’ll be able to handle even the most insane fights. Then when you’re ready to swih over to Prot an be done at 20, I suggest waiting to 35ish) you’re tually gonna WANT the most insane of fights. You’ll be able to keep agro on large groups while she either DoTs them up or Rain of Fires them. For PVE you’re taunt works perftly for this AEombo style, as you taunt all monstersurrently agroing a player (so if she pulls whole AE group youan just pull them all bk), but ft of the matter is you’ll both be doing about the same damage output – whh is ridulously high. For PVP and diffult PVE targets, the Paladin will take ages to kill (even by High elites, t) and has the ability to prott the Warlk many times over, where the Lk has fear, Scubus, and the damage output required to take the targets down. In the later stages of the game, it will be easier for you to go Holy, allowing for either Fear Dotting or (in thisase what may be better) just straight multi-dotting allowing the Lk to tank and the Pally to heal for ridulous kills per sond. In instaes as some people have said before, you being a healer will make people more prone to inviting the both of you to the group, and with the neverending Mana of a Holy pally mixed with Life tap… lets just say the Warlk will be worth the group spot.

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EvilManLk wrote:My felguard beatslothies like Ike on Tina. Is that referring to Fire Emblem? And a spialization, even if Demonology is not as these warlks above say, that fuses on a pet IS good for BGs. It equates it to being twohartersontrolled by one person, and if you ever neutralize one, the other one is still up and kking. You have to tually kill off the warlk to take down the giant Felguard beating on you. I’m a PvE sp’d fire mage and sometimes go into BGs, and if I do not get the jump on a demonology warlk, and even if I do, I lose big time. I just simplyan’t do enough to take a demonology warlk before the various ways of keeping me at bay are reapplied. Trust me, demonology is the ‘best’ for BG-style PvP, but ofourse, player skill, enemy player skill, gear, fay spcing andustomization,an make otherhoes viable too. I would fear (literally) any sp’d warlk in a BG, not just Demonology.

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I prefer an Affl sp, however I tried out Felguard for a while and I have to say my survivability went up alot. Iould take a lot more hits, and having Inteept was ne too. When Felguard isn’tCed his damage makes up for the lk of DoTs, when he is, you still have the survivability bause he takes your damage and you get Sta boosts out of the Demo Tree.Zhok, I am level 70 Destrtion lk and I love it. I tually resp’d several months ago to demonology – just to see what it was like. I hated it bause I did not like the idea of relying on a pet to keep me alive. I do PvP a lot and I am usually in the top five for DPS and sometimes, even number one. Ian do a lot of damage but you need to have a ne stk of soul stones, health and mana potions, e… I think it just boils down to personal preferee. Good lk Do you PvP in the BGs? Destrtion is fine there. If a person wants to do the Arena as a Destro ‘lk, they’re in trouble.It’s all about preferee and playing style. I have seen Warlks from all hools do well in PvP. IMP go Demo and dump the rest into Affltion. I have been Demo for a while but rently took out SB bause I got so sk of farming shards everyday. True you get a shard bk if they die in 5 sonds, but usually when I go for the kill shot some stinkin healerrit heals my target the instant before SB hits and I blow a shard. My newest sp is working great. I have a high sustained dps (top 1-5 in BGs without trying hard)and insane survivability. Warriorsan beat on me all day, but my dots kill them before they kill me. The felguard is the only pet that helps against rogues. With my high res gear and SL Ian even survive most rogues. My felguard beatslothies like Ike on Tina. I would have to say that one weakness of my sp is my dotsan be dispelled easily, but thatan be somewhat oveome by keeping thelasses thatan dispelCed until the dots have done there evil work. In BGs I throw my pet on the nearest healer andoT them, fear the nearest dps, then I spamoA andorruption on everyone, and wah the nightfall prs roll in. Then I rain shadowy death on the poor healer who is still trying to get that first heal off =P. Ian usually end many eounters with most of my health and mana intt. Strat in Arena varies dependent upon my opponents. One thing is for sure, survivability is key. With Demo you will have the besthae of survival. I suggest you try all sps out over time and figure out whh one you really like. Thats what I did.

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Winfury! LotP or Rampage! Unleashed Rage! These things make arms warriors pve friendly.This sp is what I was using when I did the testing, after that I went pvp to try to hk it in some skirmishes.. but apprentlylker mage + rusty warrior = failure. Going to try to get a feral and an enhaement shaman to do testing.. just hard to get them both online at the same time rofl. Also, no sunders on the target. I’ll put them up then start the meter, and see if it makes a differee (refreshing them every 30 sonds wouldn’t undo the rage gains over those 30 sonds, I’m thinking.) I’ll try to log out in my pve set tonight, I had a few extra pvp pies on for battleground zergfests. Edit: okay, stats. AP: 2040rit (battle): 37.9% Hit: 143 (9.07%) ArP: 8% Expertise: 2.75% S2 axe with savagery, I’d put exutioner on it but.. meh, wrath is just around the bend >.< Hiya I need to ask something about blksmithing and the future of it in 70—>80ontent. an someone link if there is available a page with items made by BS at level 80? Opinion :”Go for Engineering m8 sie there isnt really anything interesting for a prottion warrior with BS” Q: Is the above statement true (in terms of iome-in terms of usefull plate items-in terms of time to level profession)? Thanks (I m already a high level miner) Link to this 4 replies t 23rd 2008 9:19pm Edited: t 23rd 2008 9:48pm : Logged Reply to this RuinatorVek the centrholarUser’s Journal2065 Good geotank wrote:Hiya I need to ask something about blksmithing and the future of it in 70—>80ontent. an someone link if there is available a page with items made by BS at level 80? Opinion :”Go for Engineering m8 sie there isnt really anything interesting for a prottion warrior with BS” Q: Is the above statement true (in terms of iome-in terms of usefull plate items-in terms of time to level profession)? Thanks (I m already a high level miner)Both professions have good stuff for tanks at level 80 (Engineering being the only one that has a professions requirement to wear the stuff for tanks). Also, if you need a better reason to take engineering…look at these

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Well.. I don’t get it, then, though I’d agree that I’m more than a little rage starved. I just don’t get why >.< Armory Linkz My gear isn't terrible, even though it's a PvPPvElusteruk at the moment. Armory has me in battle. And sorry for getting snpy earlier. >.< Ok, a few points I pked up … – you don’t have trauma – but that’s only a buff do bleed damage, and subsequently overall DPS … but that’s not what you’re asking about. – You haven’t taken Strength of arms, the extra str would irease damage dealt, whh would improve rage gen. The expertise would help eliminate dodges and parries – both of whh would afft rage gen …an’t hit -an’t generate rage. – Most importantly, however, imo, is the lk of blood frenzy .. aside from the damage buff … it’s also a haste buff – and haste is very definitely aontributing ftor to rage gen. Now I understand you’re PvP sp’d, andan appriate that you may have forgone these pure DPS talents to get the PvP ones …but it’s those little dps talents (espially SoA and BF) whhould be the differee between dent rage gen and rage starvation … re-iterate …OULD be. Another thing .. your AP is a toh low, if you don’t mind me saying .. SoA may fix that a little, but with AP that low, you’re also going to struggle with Rage gen. As aomp .. myrit is 37% (zerker) with a shade over 2k AP … and that’srafted Blues and Eps, quested Blues and a green (for shame) and S1 PvP eps. Again, I cept that’s nessary for PvP (You’d probably srife Sta for any extra AP … my Health pool is a LOT lower than yours), but itould be a reason you’re struggling. Link to this ing from Moroes’ Dining Room t 28th 2008 11:38am : Logged Reply to this devioususerholarUser’s Journal1169 Dent

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